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 Post subject: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:14 pm 

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So after watching Mike Fagan yesterday, I noticed his grip looked a little strange. I did some googling and found out he uses a Sarge Easter Layout. I couldn't really find a consistant answer to the benefits of using this layout so I thought I would ask you wonderful people.

Lay some knowledge down for me...

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:16 pm 

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My understanding is , it is used to help reduce over rotating the ball. So reducing the rev rate.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:41 pm 

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It is not so much a layout as it is a grip style.

For the lucky few who have way, way more revs that should be humanly possible, the Sarge Easter grip is a way to reduce revs while still maintaining lots of power.

Essentially, the middle finger is drilled as a fingertip style, while the ring finger is set up as a conventional grip.

Maybe some of the other pro shop rats can tell us more about it; I've never drilled a ball for anyone this style;

What thumb pitch recommendations do you follow?
What other concerns regarding finger pitch do you have to consider?

That's what I know.
Time to pass the mic.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:58 pm 

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There is a lefty on my league that uses a Sarge Easter drilling with his thumb barely in the ball. It's the only time I've a seen the drilling used. I couldn't really learn much from the guy because he pretty just chucks the ball up 5 as hard as possible. I have a team mate that has asked me about drilling him a Sarge Easter. I have a used ball for him ready for experimenting...

I'm hoping one of the pro shop guys on here has drilled one and give us some insight.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:59 am 

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I tried a sarge easter grip years ago and it is definitely a different feel. For me it made it very difficult to get around the ball but i dont have half the hand Fagan does so I would think it helps tame the release on those that need or want to do so.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:56 am 

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I have tried it a few times, its hard to get the fit right and takes a few tries to get it right. Having the conventional ring finger and fingertip middle finger hit the ball at the same time for a clean release is tough.

Best luck I had was with .75" reverse and .125" right in the ring, span relaxed .125" short of the first knuckle crease.


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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:03 am 

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Sweet, thanks for the answers. Things make a little more sense now.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:19 am 

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I've toyed with the idea of using this grip. I tried it about a year ago, and it felt pretty good. I was just curious as to how much it really cut down on your revs and all. I tried it for about a month, but decided to go back to my "regular" grip. (I did however make some tweeks to the pitchs of my fingers). Long story short, if you get the measurements correct, it can help those that hit the ball a lot and have problems with their equipment reading too soon or over flaring.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:43 pm 

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joshs wrote:
if you get the measurements correct, it can help those that hit the ball a lot and have problems with their equipment reading too soon or over flaring.


This is the exact problem my team mate is having. I have feeling we're going to start playing around with this.

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 Post subject: Re: Sarge Easter Layout
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:49 pm 

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I researched this a while ago while looking for drill options for spare balls to help with accuracy and creating more forward role. I learned that it won't necessarily do that but here is one of the more useful links I found.

http://brunsnick.com/sarge_easter_grip.html


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