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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:02 pm 

Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 pm
Posts: 41
I guess I wasn't making myself clear.

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Raptor P7 : 40 X 5 X 45
SR2 : 35X6X65 P2
Sigma T : 45X5.5X55 P2
Impulse: 50X5.5X 45
Sigma H : 50X5X55
2Cruel : 45X4.5X50 P0
Talon : 65X5.125X60
Toxin : 55X4.5X58 P3
Frenzy : 50X4.5X50


Speed 16-20
Rev Rate : 420
PAP 5.125 over and 0.25 down


Last edited by UsedToBeSortOfGood on Wed May 09, 2012 2:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:19 pm 

Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 pm
Posts: 41
I guess I wasn't making myself clear.

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Raptor P7 : 40 X 5 X 45
SR2 : 35X6X65 P2
Sigma T : 45X5.5X55 P2
Impulse: 50X5.5X 45
Sigma H : 50X5X55
2Cruel : 45X4.5X50 P0
Talon : 65X5.125X60
Toxin : 55X4.5X58 P3
Frenzy : 50X4.5X50


Speed 16-20
Rev Rate : 420
PAP 5.125 over and 0.25 down


Last edited by UsedToBeSortOfGood on Wed May 09, 2012 2:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:27 pm 

Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:26 pm
Posts: 157
Location: Cleveland, Tennessee
I kinda wish Motiv would do a discounted two pack for bowlers who want to purchase both.

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In the bag:
I RAPTOR P7 (15lbs) I QZ2 (15lbs) I SigmaTour (15lbs) I Ascent Solid (15lbs) I sniper (15lbs) I 2 Cruel (15lbs) I
Alternate:
I TX1 (16lbs) I SX1 (15lbs) I Cruel LE (16lbs) I Primal TV4 (15 lbs) I Primal Impulse (15 lbs) I Ascent Pearl (15 lbs) I
As soon as I can get it:
I Primal Scream I


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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:35 am 

Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:26 pm
Posts: 30
UsedToBeSortOfGood wrote:
I am not a proshop owner, nor do I work in one. However, I do my own layouts in the shop I go to. Just not allowed to run the press (OSHA).

I could probably sell a lot of the Pearls this summer in my mom and pop handicap league, if I was a staff member and had one in my hands.

I've already persuaded people to buy 1 Thrash, 4 Raptors, 6 Sigma Tours, and 2 Primal Impulses. If the people that came up and talked to me about the Sigma Hybrid (they wrote down info on the ball to go buy them) the first day I threw it in the winter version of that mom and pop league go out and buy it, then I will have directly affected 5 sales of that ball. That was only the 1 league. I bowl in 4 others. Want me to mention the sales from them, too.

It's getting tiring paying to sell Motiv and working for free. HINT!!!!!!

Oh, and for those that say go work for a proshop; I don't have time to work in a proshop. I have a very nice day job. I sell with my bowling and the ball reaction I can display.

And while I'm on this topic....soap box day....

Proshop owners need to pay attention to their customers. See how they swing and release the ball. Pay attention!

Do you know how many people come to me asking why a ball rolls like it does and doesn't work for them?

An example, from a week ago: A guy comes to me with a Nano that was drilled about 35ish X 4 X 50ish and said it was crap because it stopped hooking at the pocket. I watched him. He throws the ball about 14 mph tops with 350 rpm.

I drew lines on the ball to change it to about 50ish X 5 X 50ish.

For him it gets down the lane a lot better and doesn't stop for him. He loves it.

This happens to me all of the time. All of the time. I correct the reaction of 20-30 balls a year.

You can't just sit in the shop and sell whatever you are getting the best perks on, and only drill it one way, the same way for everyone. Know your customer.


Instead of putting this where the entire world can see it, why not simply message your concerns or contact directly to those who are in charge of making those decisions. Instead of being so "tired of selling Motiv" maybe you should have more of an optimistic attitude rather.. Just my $.02 - be positive, growing Motiv and making Motiv a direct choice for many new bowler's not accustomed or in knowledge of the brand is a GREAT thing.

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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:56 pm 

Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 pm
Posts: 41
I guess I wasn't making myself clear.

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Raptor P7 : 40 X 5 X 45
SR2 : 35X6X65 P2
Sigma T : 45X5.5X55 P2
Impulse: 50X5.5X 45
Sigma H : 50X5X55
2Cruel : 45X4.5X50 P0
Talon : 65X5.125X60
Toxin : 55X4.5X58 P3
Frenzy : 50X4.5X50


Speed 16-20
Rev Rate : 420
PAP 5.125 over and 0.25 down


Last edited by UsedToBeSortOfGood on Wed May 09, 2012 2:58 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:29 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:33 am
Posts: 106
Sir. Respectfully, you are not doing yourself any favors by addressing this topic in this fashion. You would be better off making your case through the normal channels, whatever those are. This job interview on a public forum in a thread that is supposed to be about the new balls is hurting you far more than its helping you.


So. Ascent Pearl. I think this is may be my next new ball. Can't wait to see what this one can do.


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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:58 pm 

Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 pm
Posts: 41
OldScratch wrote:
Sir. Respectfully, you are not doing yourself any favors by addressing this topic in this fashion. You would be better off making your case through the normal channels, whatever those are. This job interview on a public forum in a thread that is supposed to be about the new balls is hurting you far more than its helping you.


So. Ascent Pearl. I think this is may be my next new ball. Can't wait to see what this one can do.



I guess I wasn't making myself clear.

I was not applying for a job. I was trying to point out that if I didn't do this, no one in the area that I am in would know about it. I live in a very large metro area. The "staff" for this area is 50 miles away and the proshops don't have much on the walls unless you are a Hopkinsville or Utah company.

MOTIV has been coming out with a lot of new equipment over the last 6 months. If I didn't come on here, I wouldn't know anything about it.

My point: Representation in this area is weak, at best.

I apologize for the hi-jack. The issue started to get a life of it's own. I removed my comments. Couldn't find a DELETE function to remove the posts.

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Raptor P7 : 40 X 5 X 45
SR2 : 35X6X65 P2
Sigma T : 45X5.5X55 P2
Impulse: 50X5.5X 45
Sigma H : 50X5X55
2Cruel : 45X4.5X50 P0
Talon : 65X5.125X60
Toxin : 55X4.5X58 P3
Frenzy : 50X4.5X50


Speed 16-20
Rev Rate : 420
PAP 5.125 over and 0.25 down


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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:16 pm 

Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:51 pm
Posts: 478
Hey now :( ....I'm doing what I can :)

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Brian Hirsch
MOTIV Recon Staff Member ~ TURBO Staff Member ~
High5Gear Staff Member ~ Bowling with LEVERAGE Pro Shop ~


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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:38 pm 

Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 pm
Posts: 41
Onefrombills wrote:
Hey now :( ....I'm doing what I can :)


You know how big this area is and you know how the shops are stocked and pushed on my side of town.

No offense to you. I think you know that. At least I hope you know that.

I have issues with very few people and very few have issues with me, that I know of. There is always the political sniping behind the back, though.

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Raptor P7 : 40 X 5 X 45
SR2 : 35X6X65 P2
Sigma T : 45X5.5X55 P2
Impulse: 50X5.5X 45
Sigma H : 50X5X55
2Cruel : 45X4.5X50 P0
Talon : 65X5.125X60
Toxin : 55X4.5X58 P3
Frenzy : 50X4.5X50


Speed 16-20
Rev Rate : 420
PAP 5.125 over and 0.25 down


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 Post subject: Re: New Motiv Ascent Solid & Pearl!
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:49 pm 

Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:51 pm
Posts: 478
UsedToBeSortOfGood wrote:
Onefrombills wrote:
Hey now :( ....I'm doing what I can :)


You know how big this area is and you know how the shops are stocked and pushed on my side of town.

No offense to you. I think you know that. At least I hope you know that.

I have issues with very few people and very few have issues with me, that I know of. There is always the political sniping behind the back, though.


Yes I know :)

I was just playing with ya but yes the East Valley is over done with EBI & Utah balls. Im going to talk with Leverage today about getting more Motiv in stock in the East Valley shop

You going to come up and bowl the KOH at 830 at Union Hills?

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MOTIV Recon Staff Member ~ TURBO Staff Member ~
High5Gear Staff Member ~ Bowling with LEVERAGE Pro Shop ~


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