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 Post subject: New Member
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:30 pm 

Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:44 pm
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Hello everyone,
After reading the information and friendly nature of
this forum, I just had to become a member!
And after alot of research,I've become a proud new
owner of my first Motiv bowling ball, an SR2.
Drilled 4.5 x 4,(our proshop does not have the equip.
required for a dual angle layout), all i can say is Wow!
Bowling on a 38' THS with medium volume, this ball
is a beast! I took the shine off,but left the surface
at 2000 abralon.What i have is a smooth hard arc
and tremendous hitting power! Our shot varies day to day,
every other day it's stripped and reoiled, this ball does'nt
care. Shot 300 swinging 20 to 12 on monday,300 playing
10 to 5 on tuesday! Amazing versatility,even with release
and speed changes. I am a believer! Oh, and Justin's
video's were a great help!
Now to my question, What do you think my next Motiv
ball should be? I'm trying to build a tournament arsenal
more so than for my house shot,I have the best ball for
that now! Any ball and layout help would be appreciated.
Everyone have a good new year.
Bakerrr


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:05 pm 

Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:01 pm
Posts: 524
Welcome, bakerrr! Glad to have you aboard. Excellent choice, the SR2. Love mine! For lighter volumes of oil, go w/SX1. It gets down the lane saving energy for the b/e. Heavier oil, try a TR2 drilled aggressively, say, 3 1/2-4" pin-to-pap swinging the cg out w/wt. hole. Keep it dull. Also, I've been experimenting using a SR2 dulled down to 1000 or 2000. Works pretty well on the heavier volumes. Hope this helps & best of luck to you.

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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:54 pm 

Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:44 pm
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Thanks for the reply Bob!
As for another SR2, i'm all for that also
since i'm so impressed with mine.
With the TR2,will a 3-4" flare drilling be
as useful as a tighter 1-2" flare on scratch
tournament conditions and if so, what layout
do you recommend? I am planning to bowl
in a couple of central regionals this spring
and not sure where to start with my equip.
Thanks again
Bakerr


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:30 pm 

Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:01 pm
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I would need to see how you bowl and need to know what your PAP is, ball speed, axis tilt & rotation. However, in general terms, since 3 3/8" pin-to-pap is considered the strong position, I would keep this distance between 3"-4". Keep the pin at ring finger height or just below. A pin-up may cause it to skid alittle too long on some sport shots. A weight hole in the P3 or P4 (per Mo Pinel) location will enhance the reaction off the pattern. Again, w/o knowing more about your "game" it is tough to make solid recommendations.

Considering bowling in the Central Region. I bowl in that region. Where do you live?

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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:26 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1698
Location: Rochester NY
Bakerrr wrote:
Hello everyone,
After reading the information and friendly nature of
this forum, I just had to become a member!


Glad to have you :)

Bakerrr wrote:
Drilled 4.5 x 4


I'll get you the dual angle translation tomorrow.


Bakerrr wrote:
Shot 300 swinging 20 to 12 on monday,300 playing
10 to 5 on tuesday!


Congrats, and don't forget to get your T-Shirt!

Bakerrr wrote:
Oh, and Justin's
video's were a great help!


Glad to hear they helped you with your decision.

Bakerrr wrote:
Now to my question, What do you think my next Motiv
ball should be?


Depends, do you have trouble hooking the ball, or trouble with a ball hooking too much in tournaments? keep in mind the SX1 has the same block as your SR2, so an SX1 with a tweaked surface and layout is a great compliment. The QZ1, GT1 and TR2 would all be options, it just depends on what condition you feel you need to cover that you can't now.


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:08 am 

Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:38 pm
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I am about to purchase my first Motiv ball tomorrow. I am looking at the QZ1 and would love some advice on how to drill it up. I don't put a lot of revs on the ball. I would consider myself a tweener that throws average speed. Typically on house shot, I roll straight up the odd colored board and let the ball break to the pocket. Unfortunately, I don't know much more than that, as I have been away from bowling for the last 15 years or so and alot has changed since then. For example the ball I currently use as my strike ball is considered "RETIRED" by Columbia ( http://columbia300.com/products/detail_ ... lls/beast/ ) I don't even think the thing has a visible pin! I am hoping that the guy I've got to drill the ball up really knows what he's doing. He appeared to when I took a workshop from him. I am really excited about updating my arsenal and the information in this forum is GREAT! Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:32 pm 

Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:44 pm
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BOB,
My pap is 4 7/8 over and 3/4" up, speed around
17 mph. normal rotation is at 45*, guessing my tilt
at 5-7*. never had revs measured. Consider myself
stroker/tweener. Although those are my normal stats,
seems like i'm using a end over end release with less
tilt to score well and keep me close in tournaments.
Regionals are a maybe for me,depending on employment
status,but we'll see. Thanks again for the input.
Bakerrr


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:01 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1698
Location: Rochester NY
JustinWi wrote:
Bakerrr wrote:
Drilled 4.5 x 4


I'll get you the dual angle translation tomorrow.



Forgot I can't work up the VAL angle from this, if i knew the distance from the pin to the midline that would sort it.


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:31 pm 

Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:44 pm
Posts: 10
Justin,
Thanks for the reply, I'll get that
for you tonite.
By the way, how far is your proshop from
the "new" lilac city tournament site? Will be
there in the end of May.
Thanks,
Bakerrrr


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 Post subject: Re: New Member
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:36 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
We are in Hennrietta.

Everywhere is 20 minutes from everywhere in Rochester :)


I think the Lilac is at AMF Gates and AMF Terrace. We are 20 min from Terrace and 15 or so from Gates.


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