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RayRay310
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Post subject: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:26 pm |
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Me: Hey all, simply lookking for a layout/ball choice from motivgurus, firsttime motiv user. Thanks in advance!!
Right handed
Speed:18mph on monitor
Rev Rate:400
Axis tilt:33•
Axis Rotation:30
Speed dominant
Lane Condition:
Anywhere from 39'-45' THS, a few sport patterns during the few tournaments I bowl.
10 yr old synthetics
Summit oil machine primary house,
24-28 ml's
Balls desired: Sigma line (original or hybrid)..open to suggestions as motiv is the first brand I'm trying outside of the Ebo. Int'l brands.
Reaction desired:Something I can get in with on my top hat puddle in the middle patterns.
Looking forward to hearing/using your suggestion JunstinWi!
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JustinWi
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:00 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm Posts: 1690 Location: Rochester NY
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33 degrees is a ton of tilt.
What are your grip specs? We might be able to dial out some of the tilt with some pitch adjustments.
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RayRay310
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:59 pm |
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Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:22 pm Posts: 4
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Thanks, was hoping to get a performance fit anyways. Going off a really old drill sheet ill do my best making out the chicken scratch.
About me: Old baseball injury from throwing curveballs siince I was 4, so I have no finger pressure in my middle finger,tons of flexibility but no pressure. Skin is very slippery and my thumb is longer than 2 3/8.
Specs:
MF Span:4 13/16 RF Span: 5 1/16
MF Pitch:1/2 forward, 1/4 left RF Pitch:1/2 forward, 5/8 right
Thumb Pitch:1/4 forward,1/8 left.
Bridge:1/4
No grips. Little to no bevel. (Preferably none, but current driller insists on bevel)
Vise It: 61/64 slug ovaled @ 70•
PAP: 4 1/4 left, 1/4 down.
BTW, what are the disadvantages of too much tilt?? Is it sacrficing backend?? Currently nonthing I have turns the corner from inside..Thanks in advance!!
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JustinWi
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:59 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm Posts: 1690 Location: Rochester NY
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Tilt will created length, and in extreme cases impede the ability of the ball to transition properly. Basically it makes the first transition take too long before it starts, which makes the ball hit in the hook phase. This can be accounted for though.
First thing I would consider doing is taking the MF to 0 forward/reverse.
As far as equipment, the Sigma Hybrid, Raptor, or Cruel would be your best bet.
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RayRay310
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:05 pm |
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JustinWi
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:28 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm Posts: 1690 Location: Rochester NY
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Depends on how much your tilt changes. Is there any way to pitch plug the middle finger and recheck your tilt?
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RayRay310
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:07 pm |
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Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:22 pm Posts: 4
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Yea ill plug and reddrill..won't know about the change in tilt till sat.
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JCumbie
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Post subject: Re: 1st timer..layout/ball choice Justin! Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:17 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:21 pm Posts: 6 Location: Erwin, NC
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No update? I am curious as well. My dad has similar specs and suffers with the ball being in the hook phase when it hits the pins.
My wife is rev challenged, 150 avg bowler. She just got the Raptor P7 and that thing is a beast for her. She has a 45x25 on it and it has given her several 200+ games in the last few weeks.
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