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 Post subject: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:55 pm 

Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:42 pm
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Location: McMinnville, TN
Motiv gt1. First motiv ball in the midst of an entire Roto arsenal. I seeked advice at bowlingchat but No thought I should ask Justin wi being the motiv guru. 42' ths. Pro anvil synthetic. Specs: 16-17 MPH at the arrows. 3-5° tilt. 55-60° rotation. 350-375 rpm. Pap is 5.25> .5^


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:23 pm 

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Location: McMinnville, TN
Any input? Holes are going at 5 today. League at 6. Please please...


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:07 pm 

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Location: McMinnville, TN
Any input? Holes are going at 5 today. League at 6. Please please...


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:42 am 

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:14 am
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Location: Iowa Falls, IA
I don't know if this will help, but:
I drilled a 14# up for my wife on Monday; she's rev dominant for her ball speed and can hook the lane with the best of the guys in my house. The pin on her ball ended up directly over her ring finger, and the CG was stacked, underneath her ring finger, no hole necessary (but I scribed the four points along the pap-to-mb line, just in case we needed to tweak her reaction). The measurement ended up 4 1/4" pin to pap, 4" CG to pap.
What an incredible roll! I guess I was under the incorrect impression that the GT1 didn't have much of a backend-- her reaction was outstanding, both on the fresh, and into the 2nd game transition. She had to put it away in game 3, but man! Super smooth, small arc the first 2/3rds of the lane, with a nice, predictable flip at the breakpoint, with continuation thru the pins. If you're looking for a THS ball, this baby will do you right! I'd stay in the range of 4" to 5" pin- to- pap distance, and try to keep the CG very similar for a predictable, strong, controlled, smooth and continuous reaction.
I hope this helps.
(BTW- the 'buddies pro shop' video doesn't do this ball justice. Chris Forry is an incredible bowler, but the layout he chose doesn't make the ball perform like it should. Just my thoughts)

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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:47 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
Hopefully this isn't too late, I just saw the post today.

Don't be afraid of leveraging the GT1, keep in mind that the differential is lower. To take full advantage of the strong cover, a 4-4.5" pin position is ideal.

You are pretty balanced, so a P2 or P3 hole would most likely be appropriate. If you want it a bit earlier and smoother a P3, if it is good as is a P2.

Something like a 50x40@4.25" would be good, you will probably need a hole, but try and throw it first.


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:02 pm 

Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:42 pm
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Yeah I put holes in it last night. 75x3x40. I see a lot of control out of this layout but with my house shot its night quite enough so after league I went and punched a p3 in it and definitely has more midlane but I'm still thinking bout hitting with some 2k abralon. Thought about getting another or a sr2 and drilling a bit stronger maybe what You suggested but I have to get the extra $130 first.


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:14 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
The character of the reaction will stay the same, but will get a bit stronger overall.


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:30 pm 

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The 50x4.25x40 or the 2000 abralon. I told about my shot in the pm I sent you doaa you have a ball and layout suggestion?


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:42 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
The 2k Abralon will make it a bit stronger overall.

Are you looking to drill another GT1 or a different ball to be complimentary?

For a THS an SR2 or QZ2 would be contenders to add to your GT1.


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 Post subject: Re: layout advice: gt1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:44 am 

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Can you give me a ball and layout recommendation. The gt1 doesn't finish like I need in the beginning of the night. I need more pop of the dry then I get. The latter part of the second game and early in the third the balls works best after the lanes have dried up a bit and I need a smoother transitioning reaction. Tz3 is what I'd like to have but not for $220 on eBay.


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