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 Post subject: heavy oil / longer pattern layout for CRUEL justin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:24 am 

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Location: Newton, MA
hi motivnation. i need your help again. i am buying a cruel to use for heavier sport shots specifically for the longer patterns. i need help with some more backend on the longer shots. i am a stroker style more down and in on these types of shots but i need a lyout when i need more backend and mid lane read.

here are my stats
16mph
60 ish axis rotation
14 tilt
260-275 revs
high track, less than inch from thumb, 2inch from finger holes
pap is 5 over 1/4 up

i was thinking of a 60 x4x60
but i am afraid of flaring over my thumb.

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 Post subject: Re: heavy oil / longer pattern layout for CRUEL justin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:47 am 

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The thing you need to remember on longer, heavier patterns is the the ball needs to transition faster since you have less backend length. 60 x 4 x 60 might be a little to slow to make the turn to kick out the 10 pin.
I would recommend 45 x 4 1/2 x 45 or possibly 35 x 5 x 45. Do to your high axis rotation you need to get the ball to transition quicker (lower drill angle compared to VAL and angle).
Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: heavy oil / longer pattern layout for CRUEL justin?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:24 am 

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W/o seeing you throw it is alittle difficult making accurate recommendations, however, I was in a similar situation. I drilled a Cruel w/45x4x40 that didn't do much because it burned up all its' energy too soon. Justin recommended I try a 60x4.25x30 which I did & it reacted much better. The Cruel has a strong coverstock w/strong core and when you put a stron layout on it, the ball just burns up too soon. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: heavy oil / longer pattern layout for CRUEL justin?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:56 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
mmaloney23 wrote:
60 ish axis rotation
14 tilt


These will help you get length.



I'd do a 50x30@4.25". You'll probably end up with 500 or 1k Abralon depending on your volume. See what it does before placing a hole.


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