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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:55 am 

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There will be a special treat in this video, a completely reinvented and improved delivery. I worked on it tonight and saw almost instant results in consistency.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:40 am 

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Expected upload date of the video?


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:54 am 

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I'm shooting for mid next week. Gotta film it probably Tuesday, have it edited and post Wednesday.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:33 pm 

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[quote][/quote]There will be a special treat in this video, a completely reinvented and improved delivery. I worked on it tonight and saw almost instant results in consistency.

Justin I just hope it's not the shift bowl technique. : )


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:44 pm 

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Location: Massillon, OH
Funny you say that coolerman, I started a modafied version of the shift bowl, and It works really well for me. Nothing huge but I now put my weight on my left foot (left hander), and stager my feet sort of like in the video on youtube, and gently shift forward. I don't hold the ball low like he teaches but It was a shock how much more consistant I was after I started getting use to it. It gets the ball into the swing really smooth. Less moving parts for me. I'm not 100 % yet but It seems to work well for me so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:12 pm 

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I say that because this I would never stop someone from using
what works for them.With that said;this is what I teach.


Set up :The bowler should have the weight of the body on the balls of both feet
and not the heels.The weight of the bowler should be = on both feet.A 50/50
weight distribution creates more balance as the bowler starts the steps.

Having your feet next to each other in the stance makes it harder to maintain
go balance.Putting a little space or separation between the,in the stance
is not bad.The ball side foot should be just slightly back from the non-ball
side foot.


The ball should be set in place between the chin and shoulder.If the ball is
placed outside the shoulder or in line with the bowling shoulder,it will
result in too much weight on one side of the body and creates a balance problem.

The arm will follow where the elbow points.If your elbow is pointed into the
bowler's side or behind the bowler,the ball swing will go that direction.

The ball height : The bowlers preference,arm length and balance must be
considered when trying to determine ball height in the bowler's start.The
bowler should at least start with the ball at elbow height or just a little higher
to create a good starting position,this allows the ball to be set into the swing
and helps promote a fluid motion.

In today's modern game;Most bowlers will take longer steps until the power step.
The power step is usually a little bit shorter.If the bowler takes five steps
in their approach,their steps will most of the time be short,long,longer,short power
step,and then a long power step into the finish

Any extra steps taken before the final four timing steps are regarded as
momentum step,and are not considered in the timing equation.
The first step is problematic,because there is a lot of different degrees
in length,and most of the differences in length work.You as a bowler has
to make your own decision on what really feels right for you.
The approach pace should allow the momentum of your feet to keep
up with,then gain the pace of the swing.The rhythm of each step during the
approach is not the same.
The first two steps are control steps,and should be deliberate and
controlled.The last three steps allow the pace of your swing to take control
of the speed so they match.

1.Usually shorter
2.long
3.longer
4.short power step
5.slide-longer

Each bowler has their on distinct style.The four-inch or tuck or "pro groove"
is just one style of many.Most of the top bowlers deploy this style swing.

If you're are wanting to know what it means,the
"pro groove"swing is where the ball is out on the ball side,then comes back
three -four inches then tucks into the swing.The shape of the swing is out then
in.The bowler tucks the swing back in to create more leverage,which give the
swing more power.

Just keep in mind that today's top bowlers have the ball in line with the head
and release angle at the top of the back swing.The bowler in any style of swing
should let the ball drop into the down swing.If the swing is forced ,the shoulder
will lead and pull the ball down from the top of the back swing which causes the
ball to move away from the ankle,causing a lose of leverage.Which will cause
the ball to be away from the ankle,and destroying the bowler's power "V".

Also,there usually a correlation of the thumb and arm swing of the bowling hand.
Thumb- out is when the bowler's thumb turns out and away from the body,the
ball and arm will swing out and away from the body.This is the position of the
thumb is the "pro groove".


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:20 pm 

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Very well said coolerman!

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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:52 pm 

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Location: Texas
I just started the 4 step with thumb 12-1:00 position of my back swing coming into a slight hand shake at the release.

I guess what I am trying to debate is my first step delema I feel comfortable with starting out on my left foot holding the ball stationary until I take my right step which is where the pendilum swing starts.

I have seen pros and instructors (I watch a TON of videos)talk about starting on the left foot and the right but all of the pros that teach a 4 step approach in the MODERN GAME teach a right foot start.

Why is this, how much difference does it make on power, revs and speed?

Shouldn't it be a comfortable transition from the starting position to the foul line or is there a right way wrong way? Because I've done both and I'm more comfortable with my left start but when I start on my right and begin my pendilum swing immediately it seems I have more speed revs and approach controlabilty but its not that comfortable. I'm rambling sorry but I have fought this quite a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:25 am 

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Vids done and will be live tomorrow, watch this space!


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 Post subject: Re: Let's get Primal. *Pics added*
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:14 am 

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Thanks Justin

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