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 Post subject: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:39 am 

Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 3:47 pm
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Justin which ball is stronger, the Cruel or Primal, low rev stroker 15mph, looking for most back end reaction on Medium/Heavy oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:46 am 

Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:54 am
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The Primal seems to be more of the backend ball of the two whereas the Cruel will read the midlanes sooner based on everything I've read about the two.


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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:24 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
Cruel is very strong in the mids and has a hard arc off of friction, the Primal is much more angular.

For a coverstock relationship explanation please see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3260


I know the Primal shares a Thrust block with the TR2 that you had issues with, but this ball is a completely different animal.

If you can post your rev rate, PAP, and tilt in addition to your ball speed I can give you a layout recommendation.


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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:47 pm 

Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 3:47 pm
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Unfortunatly I don't know my pap, rev or axis tilt, I am looking for pin over ring finger, My other bowling balls seem to do well with this layout, I was a little worried, as I saw the same core and flare were the same, I will have my driller watch me throw a few balls prior to drill, thanks for your help.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:00 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:07 pm 

Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 pm
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Location: Texas
Just so that yall know from the way I throw the cruel is i have a arcing shot to the pocket. When I bought it I thought it was going to snap into the pocket and found real quick that it didn't and had to wrap my head around how IT wanted to work. Now that I've done that im finally get used to where it wants to break. Also my experience or the lack thereof with the cruel is that the ball may be designed for med-heavy oiledc lanes but this ball isn't the same ball on a medium lane than it is on a heavy lane it truely does seem to have a freakin brain, and thats what impresses me about the reaction that I get out of it from the way I throw it. Did I make that about as clear as muddy water lol

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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:56 pm 

Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 3:47 pm
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Justin I was looking for more of a snap hook to the pocket, all I can tell you about my game is Low rev's, stroke RH about 15 mph. I know it's tough with Low rev's but I need all the help I can get from the ball.


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 Post subject: Re: Primal VS Cruel
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:58 pm 

Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 pm
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Location: Texas
Hi Basher did you get my PM sir>?

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