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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:12 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
Enir wrote:
Will the LE layout be statically legal without a p-hole?


Most likely not.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:58 pm 

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Location: Panama City, FL
Justin, as I mentioned in my PM, the LE is punched per your recommendation. It currently sits at 1.5 oz side and is at OOB finish. This is the reaction I got on a 40 ft THS...4 shots per line on 3 different lines (results for each line were consistent):

Sliding 25, rolling over 16 at the arrows out to 12, the ball finished weak in the pocket (two 5 pins and two 5-7s).

Sliding 20, rolling 12 at the arrows out to 7, the ball also finished weak in the pocket (three 5 pins, and a strike with the 5-7 falling late).

Sliding 15, rolling 9 at the arrows out to 7, the ball finished flush in the pocket (3 strikes and a 9 pin).

The last line is close to what I shoot with my old equipment (straight up the 9 board).

So far the LE looks promising...where to go from here, partner?

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:01 pm 

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How much is the ball flaring?

The tough thing is that many house shots are very soupy in the middle. With the low axis rotation you have, straighter angles are going to be your bread and butter. Getting any ball to do anything significant on the backend will be tough. The asymmetrical balls will come into play when you cant get a symmetrical to carry.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:04 pm 

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Honestly, I didn't pay much attention to that although a couple people watching who saw me using it came to look and commented on it flaring a lot.

I can live with playing straighter angles. I know my game has limitations. So, leave it at OOB finish? What do you recommend for getting rid of the side weight?

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:12 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
I would try it at 1k first. A hole is permanent, and with your specs this is going to be a delicate tweak.

If you see the same shape and a bit more hook at 1k, we will go P2 and leave it at 1k. If the surface adjustment burns too much energy resulting in less finish, we go back to 2k and use a P1 hole.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:14 pm 

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OK, I'll get on that tomorrow afternoon and report back with the results.

I can't tell ya how much I appreciate your patience and help.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:21 pm 

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One more question...

IF we need to go back to 2k, polish with PG?

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:23 pm 

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Likewise, thanks for the patience as I keep sending you back to the pro shop with these small adjustments.


No polish at first, just 2k. If you want to start using it on lighter volumes, then polish it.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:26 pm 

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A month ago that would be a problem as the pro shop I was using was, let's say, less than knowledgeable. The pro shop I'm using now knows what they're doing and will go out of their way to help anyway they can.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:28 pm 

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Doing this sort of thing over the forum is a completely different animal then if you walked in the shop to visit. I'm glad you have a competent helpful shop working with you. It helps.


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