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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:37 pm 

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Location: Panama City, FL
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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:30 pm 

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Location: Panama City, FL
Ok, here we go again.

I've had to change span, pitches and delivery due to my arthritis. Hopefully this the last major adjustment I'll need. These changes have effected my specs somewhat.

Rev rate - 260
Axis rotation - 80
Axis tilt - 15
Speed - 18 mph


I'll need to get the Cruel LE redrilled. Is the previous 55x25@4" still what I need to go with?

I still haven't punched the Primal. Is your previous recommendation of 50x45@4.75 still what I need?

I also have a TX1 on the way. What layout do you recommend for it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:57 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
If you can tweak the LE, 50x35@4".

45x40@4.5" hole 2.5" down the VAL on the Primal.

Your rotation and tilt create easy length. Gotta try and get the balls started up for you to carry effectively.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:39 am 

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Location: Panama City, FL
Justin,

How big a hole 2.5 down the VAL? Just enough for static legality?

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:42 am 

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Location: Rochester NY
Start with 7/8" 2.5" deep, should get it legal, if you want it to start up a bit sooner go to 31/32".


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:58 pm 

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Justin,

The man drilling my Primal has a question. He understands what we're trying to do but wants some clarification due to my short span. His take on the layout seems to be that the pin position after drilling will add length (which I don't need) and wonders if a pin down layout would be more appropriate.

While I am slowly learning more about such things as I go along, this discussion is beyond my knowledge level at this time. So, if you can explain it to me, I'll convey your thoughts and reasoning.

Thanks for the help

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:02 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
The pin being up or down is irrelevant. What matters is the distance and angle measurements in relation to your PAP. I'm not sure where exactly it will fall without knowing your span, but it will most likely be above and to the right of your ring finger.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:43 pm 

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Thanks, Justin. I don't know where the confusion started but I passed your info along and they're punching it up. Got a family bbq tomorrow so I to try it out on Monday.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:24 am 

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Location: Panama City, FL
Can you say, "OOPS!!"? Proshop drilled the Primal at 3.5 instead of 4.5. Widening the weight hole to 31/32 and taking the finish to 1K helped the ball reaction but I have to play more in the dry area of the pattern to get the ball to move much.

Subbed in a league tonight and shot 202, 216, and 204 on Deadman's Curve pattern. Was playing up 9 board with little room for error. Should have scored better but opened twice in each game.

They said they'd replace it if I desired. I haven't made up my mind yet. What would the 4.5" pin do vs the 3.5" pin they drilled?

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for guidance
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:28 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
3.5" pin, P3 hole, and 1k surface will do literally nothing in the back half of the lane. This ball would only be appropriate if you want to play straight and have the ball to stop in the midlane.

I'd get the new one with an appropriate layout.


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