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 Post subject: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:16 pm 

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OK, I am about to get my first true spare ball, Viz-a-ball Red MLB Angels logo. How should I get it drilled? Do I get a conventional drilling, finger-tips (like my normal balls), or any ideas and suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance....

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:27 pm 

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Ideally you want to drill the grip same as your other balls, and let the lack of core and polyester cover limit the hook.


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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:29 pm 

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Thats what I did on my EBI "Marge" ball and it worked out great.
JustinWi wrote:
Ideally you want to drill the grip same as your other balls, and let the lack of core and polyester cover limit the hook.

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:25 pm 

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So what would be good specs to drill for spare ball? My PAP is below.

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:32 pm 

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I once read that some folks drilled their spare ball with the pin on the PAP.

I'm curious to see what the gurus say.

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:03 pm 

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On most plastic balls the pin is 180* from the actual pin and CG, and the CG isn't always centered on the high density puck. With a viz-a-ball you are kinda pinched because of the graphics. The best way is to find the center of the puck by using the quarter scale to find the "real pin". Depending on where that ends up in proximity and direction to the CG sometimes you can place the puck in the track and the CG slightly negative. With 3-piece plastic balls static weights will still have an effect.

Most frequently with viz-a-balls, you decide which direction you want the graphics to face and center the grip over the CG.


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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:17 pm 

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So if you found the Pin and CG, could you put a P4 hole in the spare ball and raise the differential?

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:27 pm 

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If you are looking to make a plastic ball as dynamic as possible, the Freshour layout is ideal.

The rules change with 3 piece balls. Static weights do have an impact, and the PSA moves in different ways.


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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:01 pm 

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Thanks for the input!

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 Post subject: Re: Questions about drilling of a spare ball???
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:49 pm 

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JustinWi wrote:
If you are looking to make a plastic ball as dynamic as possible, the Freshour layout is ideal.

The rules change with 3 piece balls. Static weights do have an impact, and the PSA moves in different ways.


I've drilled this layout three times, and it does help create more hook. I did it on a plastic ball, urethane, and a razor for customers. The customer with the razor has another drilled with the cg in the center of grip, and the one I drilled with the Freshour layout hooks about 3 to 4 boards more. I also saw an increase in hook with the plastic and urethane.

All that being said. I hope Motiv makes a plastic or urethane with a core. I would drill two, one with the pin on the PAP and polish the heck out of it for a spare ball. The other I would drill strong and kill the short patterns.

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