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 Post subject: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:50 am 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
Posts: 328
Location: Houston
I've talked my dad into making his first motiv purchase. He wants an aggressive ball with an arc motion. I do not have his specs yet but his speed is 14.5-15.5 mph and he has slow revs. We play on a 36' short oil house shot (that seems to change every couple of weeks) You may be able to tell the synthetics of the lanes from the youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ipyWJUngfQ

I was thinking either cruel or cruel LE but would love some layout advise to get the most out of the ball to make him happy enough to stay a Motiv customer. I'm also not sure that a cruel would be the best option for short oil but his low rev rate is what makes me think this.

I'll post his stats up later today/Wednesday.

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:30 am 

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:14 am
Posts: 804
Location: Iowa Falls, IA
Certainly a TR2 or SR2 would be a good option. Layout is important, but even more so is the surface prep. Anvil lane is a very hard surface, so getting the ball to roll at the right times the key to striking. If he likes the reaction of the jigsaw corner, you might even consider a TV4. Just make sure thesurfaceis good. A nice benchmark drill of something like 55* by 4 or 4 1/2 by 45* would be a good place to start.

Way to take care of pops!

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:48 am 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
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Location: Houston
He was mostly a St0rm man. I have gotten him to try a few other brands as of late. He loved the roll of his secrete agent (he still uses but just not strong enough) and he liked the virtual gravity (ball died quickly which helped me move him from the big S) I was thinking the Tv4 might be too angular, but I could be wrong and the drilling might make a difference. His ball rev, or lack there of has me worried about using the Sr2. A friend of Mine has the Tr2 but has struggled with it (though he picked it up when we had a 40' oil shot and now its 36' dry-quick.) By no means am I shooting these options down, I'm just offering my train of thought and worries so that they can be discussed.

thanks for all the help!

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
high series 791-796-785-824


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:13 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1701
Location: Rochester NY
I would do an LE for him, the asymmetry is going to be an asset. You'll have to tune the breakpoint trigger with surface, he'll probably be happy at 1k. I'd do a 55x35@4" on the LE, he needs something that will start up and roll heavy on it's own. The Primal could be an option, but I think he will match up best with the LE.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:02 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
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Location: Houston
axis rotation 90 deg
axis tilt 5 deg
5-3/4" right 2" up

this help?

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
high series 791-796-785-824


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:59 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
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Location: Houston
Edited rotation and tilt for proper measurement.

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
high series 791-796-785-824


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:02 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
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Location: Houston
Edited rotation and tilt for proper measurement.

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
high series 791-796-785-824


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:42 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1701
Location: Rochester NY
Doesn't change the layout recommendation, just remember surface will be key here. Don't place a hole till after he throws it a few games.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:19 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am
Posts: 328
Location: Houston
Justin. Having seen you notice a sweet spot in the Le. I have this ball on order for my dad and was wondering if Everthing still holds true for this layout.

Thanks!

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Gt1 - 1-300 1-289 1-287 1-280 5-279
Rx1(Orange)
Sr2 - 1-290 1-279
Tv4 added!50x45@4.75" - 1-289 2-279
Venom Toxin MOtion hole 1-276 1-300(p)
4 - 300's 1 practice
high series 791-796-785-824


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Help/ Suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:45 am 

Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:51 pm
Posts: 120
Location: Tallahassee, FL
I'm sure he'll change the recommendation. He changed mine from what he originally told me and my god my LE is a lane eater. Beautiful line to the pins.

-Pat


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