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 Post subject: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:39 pm 

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Can anyone shed any light on this ball for me? I know the release date is 8-13.


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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:14 pm 

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You can check out the C51 here.
http://www.bowlingballvault.com/compani ... -cruel-c51


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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:45 pm 

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Thanks coolerman. Good info.


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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:57 pm 

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Who runs this website? How did they get the info? I've seen & throw proto-types but not seen this type of info on the ball yet. Did Scott & Scott 'ok' this? Just curiousity questions.

Can't wait to get this ball for real. Love what I see in the proto-type. SWEET !!

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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:36 pm 

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With Bowl Expo starting next week,they had to get it out to the
general public to start a buzz.Just good marketing.


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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:56 am 

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The reason i posted the question was because i seen it advertised on Buddies pro shop on line. Great looking ball. Looking forward to owning one.


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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:11 am 

Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:38 pm
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Location: Shelby Twsp. Michigan
I am getting ready to purchase an SR2. Is the new "Cruel" a similar ball? Do they both have asymmetrical cores? Sorry for all the questions,..I just want to make sure that if I bought a "Cruel" too I don't have balls that are close in their reactions. I want to have a diversified arsenal, and at first glance the "SR2" and the "Cruel' look similar.
Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:18 pm 

Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:38 pm
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Location: Shelby Twsp. Michigan
Thanks Brett,
Yes, your advice is VERY helpfull. After my previous post I researched a little more and found that the Cruel is Motiv's first asymmetrical ball in its line. I am also under the impression that symmetrical balls are a little easier to control than an asymmetrical, being a little smootherr at the breakpoint.

That said I am calling my proshop and placing an order for an SR2, this ball may be a little better suited for me at this point.

Thanks again for your help Brett

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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:32 am 

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You should really like the Sr2. It's a great starting ball out of the bag. Read the lanes off that ball, then go from there. I've started and finished with it plenty of times now, successfully. That Cruel will be a WET lane ball I'd say, just looking at the stats. If Sr2 can't cut thru it, that cruel will! Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: MOtiv cruel c51????
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:55 pm 

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brettallenspangler said:

"The Cruel is a far more aggressive piece and provides a distinct ball reaction from that of the SR2. Even if you put the exact same layout on these two balls you would have remarkably different ball reactions."

That being said, I'll ask this question to whomever wishes to answer...

I have an Sr2 drilled 4.5" pin, weight hole right of thumb... I'm right handed btw...

With that same drilling, what would the Cruel do? The Sr2 with this drilling goes long and snaps hard. Would the cruel do this as well, but maybe grab sooner due to the surface? That's just what I'm assuming, but I could be wrong. What would be a good drilling for this ball to compliment my Sr2?

My Sr2 with that drilling, is a pretty good THS ball for me, so I'm thinking the Cruel would compliment it for when they're wetter, replacing my Virtual Gravity.

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