I thought about getting the Cruel this week but I wasn't sure if it would be too similar to my 920T. I've had it for almost a month and it's ball reaction reminds me of the GT1, just as smooth and arc shaped but abit longer down the lane. Have it at 2000 grit with pin below bridge and MB kicked out near VAL. My only issue with it is that it doesn't give me that skid/flip reaction that I miss on the fresh shots. Would the Cruel be a good one to put between my 505T (drilled for heavy oil) and 920T?

Just get a cruel, you don't need any other ball :p

I am also trying to decide between the Cruel and the TR2. Just wondering if the Cruel is too much ball for the wood lanes l bowl on. Although I must admit I am leaning towards the Cruel since I don't put a lot of hand in it like Tommy Jones, it may be the perfect fit for me. I dunno.....

I'm looking at this ball too. Does anyone have any experiences to share yet?

Tim,

I have tried to throw the TR2 on wood lanes and the ball will not stop hooking. It is almost too much ball for wood lanes. I would recommend the Cruel. This ball is a lot more versatile, and I think would be better on a wood surface. Just my 2 cents!

Justin Howard
MOTIV Regional Staff

TR2 Is the best ball I have ever thrown in my life, go all the way with the TR2, it is much stronger than the Cruel. But how much it hooks doesn't matter, its how you get it drilled that will impact your game.

Well,...I ordered a Cruel and should have it next week. Looking forward to adding it to my arsenal to go with my SR2, just in time for the upcoming season. Having it drilled by my coach to be pretty agressive.

Maybe after I win a few pots I can add a couple more Motiv balls to the bag,.. a QZ Red, and a Recon

Let us know how it is!

I bowled with my new Cruel last night, and I must say I was expecting more. Maybe I'm throwing it wrong and not coming around it enough but I was having trouble getting it to turn. I was out around the 5 board before I started getting some postive results, and thats after taking my ball speed down .

Although I do like the hitting power, this ball just blows up the pins when it reaches the pocket, ...I just had trouble getting it there. I took the finish down to 1000 abralon with minimal change in reaction. I am going to try a gray Scotch pad and take it to 800 and see if that makes a difference.

My coach drilled this ball for me with the pin just under my ring finger. I am more of a down and in player, so maybe its just me.....trying to swing it more. More than likely thats the case.I'll try it again tonight at 800 and see if that makes a difference.

I should also tell you that other bowlers were having some difficulty getting their balls to move too. So,..maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, and I tear it up tonight.