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 Post subject: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:00 pm 

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I have a GT1 waiting to be drilled. The thought has come up of trying a Rico drill on it.
Do any of you out there have any experience with a Rico'd GT1 or any (even remotely similar) Motiv ball?
Would a Rico even be a good idea?
I'm lefthanded, slightly rev dominant, PAP is 5 over by 1/2 up.
The other option (and actually first choice) is a 4x4 (most likely pin down) that Justin suggested.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:21 am 

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Location: Rochester NY
What sort of reaction are you looking for?


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:49 am 

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I'm looking for an arc-type roll on medium to med.-heavy oil with continuation (no flip).


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:42 pm 

Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:29 pm
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Location: Massillon, OH
I had a GT1 with a 6 inch pin to pap rico with the pin slightly up from my midline. I had it to several surfaces and all it would do for me was hook set. Most likly due to the 6 inch pin. I do like the rico layout. I've drilled it on four ball so far and rolled two 300s with my rico QZ1. However the cover on the GT1 is strong and the Gear Drive core may not have the horse power to bring the rico back when it hits the carpet on the outside part of the lane. I also used the ball on several sport shots and the ball still hook set. You might want to even look at some high angle numbers. I drilled a GT1 with a 135 total angle sum, and had nice length and smooth transition with plenty of continuation. I think the trick to that drilling is the 15 digree val angle. Check out my youtube video of the layout and make your own dicisions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4khUBWBc3GA

I'm wondering if Huddleston's drilling is based on the bowlers sweet spot angle sum being around the layouts total sum. For instance my sweet spot is around 130. But if some ones sweet spot was say 90, I bet a 80x4x15 would give the bowler the same type of reaction I had. I also believe that shifting the CG to the negative side helps smooth out the reaction rather then get the sharp breakpoint. I may have to investigate more into this and find out for myself. Good luck with the GT1, you may want to stay away from the Rico for the house shots.

Michael

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QZ2 BACKDRAFT 60x5x65
TZ3 70x5.5x30
Primal Impulse 90x3.5x55
Primal Impulse 75x5.5x40
Sigma Tour 80x5.5x40
Raptor Attack 95x5.25x30
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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:44 pm 

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Location: Rochester NY
With symmetrical balls, the drilling angle does little to impact the final ball reaction. The surface, pin distance, and hole placement are the primary factors. This is why the "Hud" layouts work decently with symmetrical balls.




The GT1 has a lower differential block, a RICO most likely won't be strong enough to do what you are looking for. I'd consider a 45x60@4.25" with a P3 hole. Strong arc, no flip.


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:39 pm 

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Location: Massillon, OH
Well put Justin.

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RX1s 60x6x70
QZ2 1 inch pin to pap
Thrash 1 inch pin to pap
QZ2 BACKDRAFT 60x5x65
TZ3 70x5.5x30
Primal Impulse 90x3.5x55
Primal Impulse 75x5.5x40
Sigma Tour 80x5.5x40
Raptor Attack 95x5.25x30
Raptor P7 45x4.5x30 P1

More not listed!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:17 pm 

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Thanks captmike and Justin. I think that settles the issue. Won't go with Rico on the GT1, but will stick to Justin's suggestion. Thanks again guys for the advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Rico for GT1
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:19 am 

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Location: Rochester NY
Enjoy, the GT1 is a great ball. Let us know how it turns out.


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