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 Post subject: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:21 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 114
Location: Panama City, FL
Convinced one of the local house managers to start ordering the 2-ball packs of new releases so looking forward to the Primal Scream arriving soon. I need a layout for it and the Motivnation has been spot-on with past suggestions.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:58 pm 

Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:26 pm
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Well not knowing your numbers or general specifications on your game - going with your signature:
"Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB
Sigma Hybrid - 55x3.75x35 WiHole OOB
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707 "

Don't be afraid to push than pin to PAP distance to create some length down the lane. My favorite layout and most likely what I will be putting on my first Primal Scream will be 60 X 5" X 35, P3. Unless you have ridiculous amounts of ball speed and a lower rev-rate, test it out or try some new layouts because in general - most of you're equipment is all in basically a range of 20* on angles and 1.75" on PAP distances.

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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:34 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1698
Location: Rochester NY
He is a high tilt low rev player. Careful tilt management has been a major key to his success thus far. Alot of his balls are playable straighter up in his comfort area, while managing shape, carry, and tilt differently to give him options.


Enir, what ball motion shape do you feel you lack in your current arsenal? Alternatively, are there any conditions you feel you can't hit?


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:40 am 

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm
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Location: Panama City, FL
I struggle the most on the flatter 43' plus patterns. When forced to play up 14-16 due to out of bounds on the right, I have trouble with getting a good entry angle into the pocket. As long as I can play up 7-12 I'm pretty confident in my game and my equipment is up to the task.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:39 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
65x25@4.5", no hole to start. It will transition quick when it sees friction. I don't want to use too strong of a hole right off the bat and make it start up on its own unless we need to. This one won't hook a ton overall, but when you have to play tight to carry it will be the ticket. I would rather see an adjustment with surface than a hole at first on this one.

Also, you can increase the drilling angle if need be to get it legal with no hole, the CG placement will have no impact on ball motion.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:22 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm
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Location: Panama City, FL
Thanks Justin. I'll let ya know how it works. Still waiting on delivery.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:25 am 

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm
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Location: Panama City, FL
Justin,

While waiting for the Primal Scream to arrive I needed to try and find answer to the flatter patterns because our Sunday afternoon Survivor competion pattern was eating me alive. I tinkered with the 2Cruel's surface and have found a combination that works well for me on these patterns. That being said, what can we do with the Primal Scream?

I think I want it to be stronger than my SigH. I await your recommendation.

As always, thanks in advance for your time and effort.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:09 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
Posts: 1698
Location: Rochester NY
Tweak it to 65x40@4.75".


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 Post subject: Re: Need Layout For Primal Scream
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:29 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 114
Location: Panama City, FL
Thank you, kind sir.

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Raptor P7 - 50x3x30 P3.5 1K 288 / 747
Sigma Tour - 40x3x35 WiHole OOB 279 / 761
Backdraft - 60x4.75x45 OOB 265 / 707
2Cruel - 60x4.5x40 OOB 257 / 673
Primal Scream - 65x4.75x40 257/684
Thrash Frenzy - 60x4.75x40 OOB 290/770


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