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 Post subject: Suggested Layouts Primal Scream & Venom Strike
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:29 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:55 am
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Location: Madison, WI
Justin,

Can you give me a suggested layout for both of these balls. I have the Primal Scream will be getting Venom Strike when they are shipped.

Right hander with average speed 17 mph in heads and 14.5 - 15 at deck on CATS. 300 - 325 rpm's. Track diameter 11"s and axis tilt 17 deg. Axis rotation 45 - 60 deg. ave. 5" over & 0" PAP.

I have a 2 Cruel http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/ ... oxhole.jpg 60*x4"x40* x hole P2.

The Primal Scream is for under the 2 Cruel as lanes transition using it mainly right now on USBC White #2 on older 1st Gen. BrunsAnvilane 16 year old panels that are worn.

On the Venom Strike will be using that on house shot 39' 19 ml same surface/house wet/dry.

My Motiv line-up will be top to bottom 2 Cruel (heavy), Primal Scream (medium-heavy), Venom Strike (medium), QZ1 Red (light-medium) and QZ2 Pearl (light). I have the 2 Cruel, QZ1 Red and QZ2 Pearl.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Scott


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 Post subject: Re: Suggested Layouts Primal Scream & Venom Strike
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:32 pm 

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 pm
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Location: Rochester NY
Scream: 60x50@4.75", shouldn't need a hole.

Venom: 65x55@4", if it is too sharp place a hole 6.75" from the pin on the VAL.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggested Layouts Primal Scream & Venom Strike
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:45 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:55 am
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Location: Madison, WI
Thanks Justin. I think Rob my pro shop guy has them laid out. VS wound being shorter pin to CG 2"s so he is going pin down under bridge I believe.

http://robbaileysproshop.com/

Will report back.

Scott


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 Post subject: Re: Suggested Layouts Primal Scream & Venom Strike
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:39 am 

Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:55 am
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Location: Madison, WI
Justin and all,

Here are the layouts after drilling. Laid out dual angle by Rob Bailey http://robbaileysproshop.com/ and spun on his DeTerminator. Numbers are actual PAP to pin to PSA which you can see on the ball/layout.

Other than slightly longer pin to PAP distances than Justin gave they are very close considering the difference between where the CG is located vs. the PSA. Neither have an x hole for now until I roll them and they can be tweaked if need be and they are both at OOB surface. I will be trying them out today and on Wed. will use Venom Strike for league when it is released.

I will report back on performance and thanks to Rob and Scott Wilbur for the help!

Primal Scream 74*(PAP-pin-PSA)x4 5/8"x40* no x hole
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Venom Strike 78*(PAP-pin-PSA)x4 3/4"x65* no x hole
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