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I threw my first 800 with this ball. I love how clean it can be through the fronts and a wicked strong backend I can create with it. No matter how far left I go this ball will carry the corners no matter how big of an angle I have to make. There is a reason why I have two of them.
I have a Jackal LE, but still wanted another Heavy oil ball.
According to the chart, this would be the next in line.
For ME, I have to say that's wrong. LOL This thing is a BEAST in truly heavy oil. And for me it's easy to tell when there isn't enough oil. If the ball rolls out and hits the pocket like a marshmallow, it's time to ball down a step.
Now when I find the flood.... this thing throws on the waders and makes the turn anyway. It doesn't care that there is 30+ of oil out there... Honestly it's probably good that most guys down throw this, because if more than 5 of us at a time threw them we might change the spin of the earth. If they made tires out of this material we wouldn't need snow tires. This ball gets TRACTION.
SO, if you are looking for a HEAVY oil ball that doesn't quit in the wet... this is it. If you want something to start a typical house shot on, for ME, I'd take a step down.
That's ME... your results may vary.
What a great ball, it is a hook monster from Motiv yet it is controllable and devastates the pins. The surface was changed for me to make it a little more controlled. But that ball hits like a semi truck going through the pins. A great product.
When I switched to Motiv, I had to get this one and It worked out very well, the Flare worked well with the pattern we used and even if i opened up I kept getting strikes all day.
I needed a Heavy Oil ball and the Forge Flare is it. This ball hooks even for lower rev rate bowlers and can be controlled through the middle for high rev rate bowlers.
I bought this for the color to track the break point and this scheme really helps to see that transition and when the ball loses energy to know when to switch your shot.
This ball it not for a classic stroker shot but by just moving inside this ball works great. the action is smooth and wants to turn so just let it. a great piece and recommend bringing this ball back.